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Old 03-20-2003, 12:31 AM   #1
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1st time at the track...9 mths with the max...and got a 17!! please help!

ok....so i thought i was tuff with the exhaust! you know what i mean...the first time you get it put on; you pull out and rev up....well the tracked proved my dumb a$$ wrong!!!

--------2001 auto GXE loaded(dont ask)--------

this is my set up:

stillen intake
wsp y-pipe
test pipe(straight pipe)
greddy evo exhaust


this is what i ran with today:

stillen intake
wsp y-pipe
test pipe(straight pipe)
greddy evo exhaust
system(audio box 2 12's)
18 inch chrome
back seats (all leather)


this is what i got when i raced:

the first time was:
1.458
3.098
7.994
11.710
67.29
14.827
17.484
84.17
-------ok; i know this sucks...dont flame just cuz i stunk it up the first time or else...lol--------

the second time:
1.074
2.510
6.936
10.545
68.94
13.605
16.221
85.52
-------this was a little better...still not good enough

i was hoping for mid 15's at the least.... does my time suck because of my weight or because i sucked the 1st time at the track...what else can i do...i want more show then go...some go is good but not rediclous amounts... thanks for the help track experts... and yes i manual shifted
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Re: 1st time at the track...9 mths with the max...and got a 17!! please help!

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If you took the system out and lost the 18's, you'd be in 15's with just a bit of pratice.
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Your R/T sucks. Dont wait for the green to go. As soon as you see the third yellow go.
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Your R/T sucks. Dont wait for the green to go. As soon as you see the third yellow go.
Your RT has nothing to do with your ET. They are 100% unrelated.

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Your RT has nothing to do with your ET. They are 100% unrelated.

The lower your R/T the 1/4 time will be lower. When I lowered my R/T from 1.xxx to .5xxx I went from 15.8 to a 15.4 and picked up almost 3mph.
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The lower your R/T the 1/4 time will be lower. When I lowered my R/T from 1.xxx to .5xxx I went from 15.8 to a 15.4 and picked up almost 3mph.


The fact that you lowered your RT had nothing to do with your better run. I could have a 20 second RT and a 14 second ET if I wanted.

Trust me, RT is NOT related to ET at all!
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The fact that you lowered your RT had nothing to do with your better run. I could have a 20 second RT and a 14 second ET if I wanted.

Trust me, RT is NOT related to ET at all!
You right, I am thinking of something else. Dam midnitechallenge making me crazy.
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Re: Re: 1st time at the track...9 mths with the max...and got a 17!! please help!

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If you took the system out and lost the 18's, you'd be in 15's with just a bit of pratice.

low 15's or high 15's??? how do i get to the 14's???
thanks man i really apericate it...when i ran the 17 i felt like an a$$...lol
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Re: Re: Re: 1st time at the track...9 mths with the max...and got a 17!! please help!

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low 15's or high 15's??? how do i get to the 14's???
thanks man i really apericate it...when i ran the 17 i felt like an a$$...lol
I'd guess around 15.7 or so...maybe better as you get better an your launch.

You'll be hard pressed to get an auto into 14's without boost or a LOT of mods.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: 1st time at the track...9 mths with the max...and got a 17!! please help!

can a 5gen have a blow off valve??? i wanna get one...do you know where at?

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hey v, did you weight you car last night?
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hey v, did you weight you car last night?

nah they were closed when i went...i think...lol
im going back next wed to see my times with out the 18's and with out the box and spare
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If you have boost then you can get a BOV.
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Old 03-21-2003, 05:39 AM   #14
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look at your 60' times 3.0 and 2.5. If you get those to the 2.2 range you have 15.6-15.7's were your at now. Put on 15's if you have them and reduce whatever weight you can stereo etc.. and that is good for a few tenths.

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Did you brake torque? Your car should be much faster than that. With your mods, you should be around mid to low 15s. And yeah, lose some weight. Put the stock wheels back on.
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i brake boosted and manual shifted...thats y i got the 17's


i spun like crazy when i brake boosted...while i was doing that i was in 1st...then my car was redling and i had to throw it in drive...that why i lost time at that run.... the second time i did not brake boost...i just manual shifted


i have the 16 gxe wheels 2001...are those heavy? what else can i take out to improve my time?
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i brake boosted and manual shifted...thats y i got the 17's


i spun like crazy when i brake boosted...while i was doing that i was in 1st...then my car was redling and i had to throw it in drive...that why i lost time at that run.... the second time i did not brake boost...i just manual shifted


i have the 16 gxe wheels 2001...are those heavy? what else can i take out to improve my time?
when you stall the car you don't have to stall to the maximum just enough so its not at idle speed. When you launch the car you slowly accelerate until you feel you have traction and then go WOT. As for the wheels yes they will be better than running heavy 18's.

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THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP GUYS!!! I WILL POST VIDEO OF MY RUMS AS SOON AS I GET A CHANCE...

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Don't brake torque too high. I brake torque at 1800 rpm, that's my optimal launching rpm for my car. Experiment with different lanching rpm, see which is best for you. After each run, I would write down on the slip at what rpm I launched at. The next time I launched at a different rpm, and so on. After three or four runs, I examined the slips to see which rpm launch gave me the best result. Try this, it really helped me out. Lower your front tire pressure to about 25psi, leave the rear alone. Try leaving it in Drive to see how you'll do. If you do bad, manually shift the next time. For whatever reason, I seem to get better result just leaving it in Drive oppose to manually shifting. Also run with as less gas as you could, about 1/4 or less left.
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It's all about the launch V. I brake torque at 1700 and let off the break but dont floor it til im moving. That way I get no wheel spin and pretty decent 60 foot times. With my 16s back on I think I'll be able to reach into the 14s, but it'll be close. Didnt you say my car was slow and that your GXE would smoke me? j/p man. More practice and you'll get the hang of it. What other people have been saying, go on the third yellow and you'll get real good R/Ts. Be careful with manual shifting as it takes your tranny a bit to shift. Dont hit your rev limiter, as this is bad for your times and real bad for your tranny.
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Sounds like you would be better off just leaving it in "drive". Might wanna remove the spare and your system, and put the stock wheels back on.
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Re: Re: Re: 1st time at the track...9 mths with the max...and got a 17!! please help!

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low 15's or high 15's??? how do i get to the 14's???
thanks man i really apericate it...when i ran the 17 i felt like an a$$...lol
Get a 2k2 or 2k3 Max. Then you will be able to get in the 14's
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